Nardwuar vs. Timothée Chalamet

what's up what's up what's

up hey welcome welcome Timothy to record

Surplus my state Proclamation from the

University from the from the state of

Minnesota oh please explain if you could

explain that to the people Minnesota

proudly acknowledges the legacy of Bob

Dylan with roots and Hibbing in duth

Dylan went on to become a globally

influential musician shaping music and

culture worldwide and Bob dol's Journey

from Minnesota is captured through

stories and music that resonate with

audiences both past and present

embracing themes explored in Dylan's

biopic a complete unknown and we are

pleased to welcome acclaimed actor

Timothy shalam Timothy shalam to

Minneapolis his visit highlights the

ongoing importance of arts and culture

Minnesota Virg musical contemporary

artistic inventers artistic exi vital to

our community all people are encourag to

celebrate the rich cultural Legacy

Minnesota recognize those who emerged

from Humble begins to make last impact

music and the Arts Governor Minnesota

Toby Proclaim Thursday December 5th a

complete unknown day thank you n thank

you

n thank you thank you so complete so

complete like reading it all out

absolutely and notice at record Surplus

who do we see on the wall we see the

Beatles and Bob and we see Bob D for you

for you a little Bob Dylan underneath I

think that's probably 1962 or 1963 Bob

Dylan underneath a picture of The

Beatles nard

who are you I am Timothy sham AKA a

young Bob Dylan in the film a complete

unknown coming out on Christmas because

I've been told to plug that it comes out

on Christmas a little bit more and right

up about Timothy I have a gift for you a

common sense record from 1994 nice

Common Sense Chicago MC Midwest you know

uh uh majorly influential to all the

artists that inspired me and also an

actor Common Sense early that's early

that's early yeah yeah before he was

just common yeah what can you say about

common an actor Common Sense back then

in '94 common sense was one of the early

Chicago MC's that uh you know at a time

when uh to my understand rappers only

pop out of the east coast to the West

Coast he was part of that whole movement

in the midwest you know preceding kit Cy

and the Lupe Fiasco and all the rappers

I looked up to and uh just an awesome

awesome musician some I've been got

getting into in the last year you know

the album b um love the song the people

and that is a gift for you for Timothy

shalom shalom all right all right facts

love it love it thank you and Timothy

The Nutcracker The Nutcracker is it true

he used to run around backstage and

change into different outfits yes uh

yeah I used to run around backstage at

the New York City Ballet where my sister

was a young ballet dancer and my mother

uh went as well and uh you know it was

like a kid with his head a chicken with

his head cut off and you are Timothy

Shalom Mrs

Davis Kinder Bueno gar field

10 dollars your kindergarten teacher Mrs

Davis Miss Davis yeah whoa yeah yeah

yeah insane oh my God yeah Miss Davis

shout out Miss Davis to hold me back

actually yeah what was that era like was

there any common sense in that era there

was a little bit of common sense in that

era but um you know I was very young for

my grade and a lot of parents would want

their you know kids to be the oldest in

the grade and Miss Davis shout out Miss

Davis they had a great time in

kindergarten but she told my mom I think

this kid should be held back and my mom

was deeply offended and uh kept kept me

going very young very little for every

grade but you know big heart well I'm

glad you kept going you kept going so

much you saw Interstellar 12 times in

theaters in IMAX that's a lot of that's

for for someone a non-working actor

that's a lot of money that's a lot of

popcorn what do you have during a movie

milk does I rip milk does I'm talking 12

at a time cho cho Cheo suck the suck the

chocolate out soak in the caramel did

anybody notice you were there for 12

times nobody noticed I was in the movie

bab boom shabalaba dingdong Eric Foley

Eric

Foley Eric Foley [ __ ] is Eric Foley you

played Eric Foley a dead body oh [ __ ] in

Law and Order that's true oh [ __ ] yeah

that was my first gig Law and Order with

Anthony Anderson and Jeremy cyof

fans.com poor Eric he yeah yeah Eric

Foley got murdered you know I got

murdered a lot as a child 10-year-old

11-year-old 12 I think there was

something about the sick [ __ ] in New

York casting that thought this kid would

look good slaughtered

234 West 42nd Street 234 West 42nd

Street is that second stage the AMC

Empire 25 at 7:30 p.m. mattic men or The

Omen Heath Ledger Dark Knight with my

grandmother uh I Max screening my mom my

grandmother walking across the street

hitting the Dwayne Reed for a 35 Cent

Spearman gum thinking I'm going to

become a fantastic actor I think it's

incredible he was in I'm not there Todd

Haynes about Bob Dylan and now you're

here with Bob Dylan Bob isn't here but

you're with a proclamation Bob is always

here Bob is here in spirit the Booker T

Washington building 1008 in

Amsterdam big shout out Booker T

Washington that's where I went to middle

school fantastic Place actually kind of

a horrible place at the time yeah didn't

really fit in there I have a gift for

you right here it is a Booker little

with Max r roach LP from

1959 and if we turn it over produced wow

and directed by Tom Wilson legendary Bob

Dylan producer this is uh unbelievable

Tom Wilson didn't get doesn't get enough

love in the in the Bob Dylan Community

if I say so myself he was sort of the

genius mind behind um sort of the early

rock and roll stuff that Bob Dylan put

out you know uh bringing it all back

home Highway 61 Revisited and I think

Bob tired of him at some point don't

really know why um if you listen to the

sort of outtakes on early D recording

sometimes it feels like Tom wison could

be like not condescending you know but

he had a sort of authoritative attitude

with Bob Eric barryman he played Tom

Wilson he was fantastic he was fantastic

and uh you know if you're playing a real

life character and you have little

dialogue little screen time it's almost

more of a challenge shout out Boyd

Holbrook who plays Johnny Cash in this

movie shout out Wen Phoenix what an

awesome vacation absolutely what a life

and I get to talk to you how many actors

have you talked to one of your first

roles you played a French Canadian a

French Canadian what an awesome vacation

oh my God nard war with the Deep Cuts

yes I was the French Canadian casting in

a Disney World commercial and uh might I

say uh I was not playing a slaughtered

person in that commercial and they like

me so much that then I you know I uh I

got the American role on that too say

super papa that was my dial coaching and

your grandmother was Canadian too right

absolutely from Brand worth

Branford Branford Branford Canada baby

shout out Canada shout out North America

and I wanted to give you a gift in

relation to Canada right here one of the

first ever bootlegs if not the first the

great white Wonder bootleg by Bob Dylan

is this like is this swinging pig from

1969 it has some early recordings done

in a hotel room unbelievable what can

you say about the early recordings of

Bob early early recording

um something I'll just point out real

quick the 1959 1960 recordings of Bob

Dylan he hadn't gotten bronchitis yet so

his voice didn't have this sort of crazy

scratch he had the rest of his career so

the Bob Dylan we hear on Nashville

Skyline that sounds more like Kermit the

Frog or something he actually sounded

like that originally yes sir interesting

and that actually was pressed in

Vancouver Canada a Canadian connection

okay so the first ever bootleg ever

probably from

1969 was Preston Vancouver Canada the 61

era of Dylan and a bit later era too

amazing all roads lead through Canada

Shout Out Vancouver and Branford and

Branford I was going to you know

absolutely also I have another gift for

you right here some Bob Dylan from that

same period another boot let me die some

home recordings between 62 and 69 what

were the home recordings like these were

super raw let me D my footsteps is sort

of Bob first profound song it's about

the potential nuclear Holocaust one of

my favorite tidbits about let me die in

my footsteps is you can see in the

outtake of The Da pennybaker documentary

Don't Look Back That Bob remembers the

melody to the song but he doesn't

remember the lyrics and he's playing it

with some friends and he doesn't

remember the lyrics and for me this like

very profound lyrics and they go his

friends go oh this the lyrics were let

me die in my footstep and Bob goes Ah

that's just corny stuff man he was

[ __ ] on his own music Nardo war and

check it out green vinyl it's green

vinyl are you into like Bob Dylan

bootlegs Etc are you into collecting all

this stuff I am you know I got a

victrola shout out the corporation known

as Sonos that uh you hook up the viig

Trolla in it and it plays records around

your house uh which is can I open this

is that yeah go ahead it's green vinyl

whoa never seen this and that's a gift

for you amazing I love this green vinyl

giving b r a t some early Charlie X some

early Charlie X CX baby hey baby hey you

know what I'm saying hipping high school

hipping high school 1958 the golden

cords the golden chords Bob Dylan's

first band Hibbing high school now the

town of Hibbing got uprooted by the

mining industry in Minnesota so what did

the mining industry say to Hibbing they

said we're going to build you the most

beautiful School you've ever seen

because I went there and it's

unbelievable it's on the edge of

Minnesota and all of a sudden you're in

like one of the most beautiful buildings

you ever been in your life and one the

golden cords his band was on stage they

had the plug pulled he he broke a piano

Bob Dylan what happened he broke a piano

before Bob Dylan was the Bob Dylan we

all know and love he was a little

Richard fan and he wanted to bang on

those keys like Little Richard they

pulled the curtain on him and people in

the school were like what the hell's

this kid up to but you know what shash

wang.com look at that look at that

picture and you actually went to that

school and surprised some theater

students I surprised some theater

students and girl in the white pinor

they were rehearsing and you showed up

and and I showed up what was that like

it was uh it was incred that I sat in a

seat that they said was the one seat in

the auditorium that years prior a thing

had fallen in and um and killed someone

and so they told me not to sit in that

seat and you are Timothy shom shom and I

have another gift for you right here a

record by Big Joe Williams Big Joe and

check what it says right there this I

don't know I don't know this I knew that

Bob Dylan appeared on some Harry

bellonte tracks as a harmonica player

but this I got no clue what this is man

he was like the house harmonica player

wasn't he at Cafe W that's how he got so

he jumped on some Big Joe Williams

recordings Big Joe Williams shout out

big Joe Williams Shout Out Victoria SP

who's actually incredible I'm sure

everyone here is incredible and Lonnie

Johnson Roosevelt Sykes Big Joe Williams

what's what track is Bob on they don't

say but five years you learned harmonica

like it wasn't easy was it no not easy

at all love love playing the harmonica

it's a perfect thing to pull out of a

party to make everyone cover their ears

and go oh God now around that time Dylan

meant l Sylvie can you explain yeah Su

Rolo Sy or Su what's explain that her

real name is Su Rolo L Fanning does a

wonderful job play in the movie Su Rola

was Bob's first girlfriend in New York

kind of opened his political conscience

uh you know pointed him towards uh

social causes was very formative in the

early life of Bob Dylan uh a beautiful

person great book a free whe in time if

you're bored and tired of watching Nar

interviews pick up a book free will in

time shout out suso and you Timothy

you're an expert on Dylan nowadays but

it's confusing check out this record Bob

Dylan AKA blind boy grunt unbelievable

where are you getting this stuff well

from record surfes no way they don't

have this here yes I bought that from

record surfest to give to you no way

what can you say about that era that's a

very early ERA this is super early I

mean Bob Dylan has 75 versions of him as

epitomized here but he's not called he's

called Blind Bo yeah what could you

explain that well he went by a lot of

things you he said he was taught um

Guitar by a cowboy named wiggle fooot

and that he was born in New Mexico

abandoned by his parents then was

broadsided by a profile in news week in

1963 and basically never gave a

straightforward press interview ever

again the way I'm giving you a

straightforward one right now thanks for

all the info this is incredible

absolutely now Phil Oaks big shout out

Phil Oaks another fantastic uh folk

musician downtown didn't really get the

accolades that Bob Dylan got his career

some people think inside L Davis the

Oscar Isaac movie is inspired by Phil

Oaks Lyn Chandler big shout out Lyn

Chandler who uh taught Bob a lot of his

early chords and taught him the chords

of the song Death of EMT till shout out

Lyn Chandler and that's a gift for you

thank you thank you thank you for

explaining blind boy grunt blind boy

grunt is unbelievable that's like you

know that's uh did you have a name

before nard War uh let's just keep that

may be undisclosed at the

moment there we go and Timothy a Newport

record from

1963 featuring Joan bz Monica Monica

what can you say about Monica Monica is

fantastic in the movie uh Monica is the

only person in our cast that is a

fantastic guitar player and flew uh jet

you know [ __ ] military jet on Top Gun

shout out Tom Cruz shout out Miles

Teller shout out Top Gun but looking at

the footage like a lot of people were

sitting on the stage could you explain a

bit about the Newport people on stage

the cool looking mics yeah everyone was

sort of seated there's no Festival that

exists like this anymore was sort of

like a you know um this is a really

really lame metaphor there was a

Coachella for Purity and there was a

Coachella for non-p Purity the Coachella

for Purity was the Newport Folk Festival

the Coachella for non Purity was

whatever was happening playing on the

radio at that time that was kind of

considered commercial whatever so these

folk festivals people would kind of

gather around sit down it was sort of

informal Bob Dylan went to the Newport

Folk Festival played electric music got

booed off stage sort of became the first

punk rock figure in American cultural

history something that now might seem

trivial playing electric guitar but at

the time was like sticking two 12 foot

middle fingers up and saying

n yep and that's another gift for you

Timothy

shalam and I was curious Woody Guthrie I

have another gift for you jack Elliot

sings the songs of Wow Wow Woody guthy

holy [ __ ] this is I don't know you

didn't get these all record Surplus no

chance I know we're shooting here but

this is this is unbelievable I mean yeah

what can you explain about this

situation the songs of Woody got three

like for you Timothy quote Woody wants

to hear something

you you got anything you shy you shy you

sh you shy that's from the movie sh

what's going on there could you explain

that yeah Jack Elliott sings the songs

what he got you mean Woody Guth three if

Pete Seager was the god of the folk

movement Woody Guthrie was the Mega God

I'm talking Poseidon times to the

exponent of you know for gazillion and

uh Jack Elliott was a fantastic me you

know you know disciple of the folk

movement to my knowledge went on the

Rolling Thunder review tour Dylan was

the son of Jack kind of yeah in some

ways just some some great imagery of um

you know of Jack Elliott and Bob on the

back of a pickup truck or in Manhattan

now I don't know if Jack Elliott

specifically but a lot of people in the

folk movement in New York felt a little

spurned by Bob Dylan because not a lot

of them had great success and Bob Dylan

was like a rocket ship a lot of them got

blacklisted in uh the late 50s no shout

out to the blacklisting McCarthyism

government of the of the late 50s no

shout out there another record another

gift for Timothy shomy some Johnny Cash

original on sun sun sun records this is

all the stuff that Bob would listen to

and I went to his childhood home in

Hibbing and Bill Pagel Big Bob fan who

owns the house had the original acetates

of sun records Elvis Presley Johnny Cash

and um this is great I mean John I was

curious Boyd plays Johnny and movie Boyd

Holbrook amazing how do you how do you

how do you take up where Wen Phoenix

left off somewhere he did it some

somehow what's the difference between

Boyd and and Woody Boyd and Woody the

characters the difference between the

characters yeah and Pete and Pete well

Johnny Cash is sort of the devil in

Bob's ears saying pursue your art Pete

is sort of the the you know the friendly

father figure who ultimately is telling

you to tuck your shirt in and buckle

your belt and Woody Guthrie is like your

grandfather who you know uh used to you

know rip Blunts and uh was your [ __ ]

homie and um but now is probably worse

off healthwise also Dave vau Ron oh man

Dave Van Ron this

is I'm sorry I think the Oscar Isaac

movie is probably based on Dave Van rck

not Phil Oaks Dave Van rck is sort of

you know the underground Bob Dylan his

career played by Michael play yeah

played by Michael chur in this movie you

you see him in a couple scenes um yeah

Dave vanron had a beautiful career um he

did a great version of House of the

Rising Sun he did a great version of

House of the Rising Sun that people

thought Bob Dylan stole on his first

album Bob Dylan LP but you know if you

don't record it and Paul Clayton who uh

wrote the song where have all the

flowers gone that's uh very influential

to where have all the flowers gone time

if you're it's a girl from North Country

I think he also killed himself by

dropping a toaster in a bathtub and

that's a gift for you some Dave Von rck

who's in your movie insane thank you so

much looking at the movie clips you have

an amazing wardrobe like that shirt the

green shirt what was a green shirt like

green polka dot shirts what Bob wore

that was the thing with Arian uh the

costume designer said you're just going

to wear it you're just going to wear I

don't know if I ever wore it my friend

Al Cooper in the movie supposed to wear

it and you see the leather jacket so

sparingly in the movie and it's such a

folk Bob in it and I was begging Arian

we had one scene left to shoot it was

the scene with Johnny Cash outside and I

said to Jim and Arian please let me wear

this green polka dot shirt it's so great

and I won that I won that argument I

just put my foot down was it vintage or

made to look vintage no that was made to

look vintage that cuz uh I'm pretty sure

that was made to look vintage what

happened to that shirt it's in my closet

at home oh you got the keep it by the

way I know exactly where it is cuz it's

folded humiliatingly next to you know

some [ __ ] you know um you know did

you have to buy it or how did you get

away with taking the shirt she she very

generously gifted it to me I took some

of the guitars from the movie I took the

outfits and I took the experience with

me so Newport

1965 yeah Dylan you playing guitar that

took a lot of effort to learn a guitar

yeah five years but at the same time not

a lot of effort because I just every all

the downtime I would get I would just

play and uh I loved it and now you know

guitar and now I know so what's going to

happen what's going to happen is uh you

know uh well I have a gift for you I

have a gift for you an actual pedal and

look what it says on the pedal if you

could hold it up to the camera oh my God

it says Nardo the the human seret and

Timothy

sham versus versus versus are we going

to have a Guitar Hero style Riff Off

well that was custom made by Adam from

satellite amps in San Diego and check

out what it says on the back there's a

little deson of what it says AJ fed

boost to celebrate when Dylan went

electric one of the first examples to

elevate an acoustic guitar to electric

or to boost an electric to a Godlike

state with respect Adam Grim 619 oh I

we'll leave that out okay all right

fantastic fantastic thank you Adam

unbelievable shout out this Dune press

picture on the rooftop of a London hotel

do you think you possibly will use the

pedal like continue on with the guitar

I'm a better acoustic guitar player than

electric guitar player but maybe one you

know one day I'll be one of these vain

actors who puts out a very

self-indulgent album that those around

him says is decent and then gets treaded

online so here's a big question did

Dylan use a pedal at Newport to my

knowledge no to my knowledge he just

plugged in directly to the amp so there

were no pedals on stage at Dort oh you

might have gotten me no I'm pretty sure

you just plugged into the amp you don't

remember in your at least vicinity

they're being pedal no nope nope so

there was the butterfill blues band

unbelievable yep yep unbelievable the

Butterfield flu Band Mike Bloomfield

incredible guitar player you could see

him in the documentary monor Pop um sort

of you he also had a tragic life um and

they played in' 65 and the Chamber

brothers did too quite loud so when

Dylan came on was it that much of a

surprise like other people have been

loud at that very fast yeah it's just

that Dylan was championed by the folk

movement you know he was supposed to be

their hero um so the other electric

players up there you know there's a

couple theories about that some people

feel like he turned their back on the FK

Community some people said it was just

mixed terribly so you're in the front

row and your ears were getting blown out

you couldn't hear what he was playing um

there was loudness though at that fast

there was loudness but I don't think he

allowed a rehearsal so I don't think

anything was mixed granted Like a

Rolling Stone was in the top 10 no

rehearsal no rehearsal uh and for

Timothy there's no rehearsals no

everything's live baby everything is

live life is live um the you know the

movie was live yeah the movie was live

by the way but um what was I gonna say

there I think they they might have done

a sound check but it was very impromptu

Dylan did three songs he got booed off

stage and it was sort of the you know

the collapse of Folk Music In America

and in the takeoff of uh rock and roll

there was the Rolling Stones or the

Beatles or uh The Kinks You know you

mentioned Mike Bloomfield and I have a

gift for you right here this is ugly

things fanzine an amazing fanzine with

wild sounds from past dimensions and if

we open up an article on Mike Bloom

16-year-old Michael Bloomfield in May

1960 playing with a high school combo

left to right Bloomfield Jason lasque

Bob Greenspan Tom man the Paul

Butterfield Blues fan and check at and

sound check at the Newport Folk Festival

unbelievable July 28th 1965 Jerome

Arnold this is unbelievable that's the

stage that we were playing on they

rebuilt it like that and big shout out

Mike Bloomfield because he was just a

genius guitar player you know he was the

son of um um like a company family that

made all their money with salt shakers

or something they were like very

powerful Rich salt shakers you can read

that in here yeah there you go

absolutely and but was still a very

gifted guitar player just goes to show

it ain't the background it's the talent

like Maggie's was so good could you

describe that night like him doing

Maggie's Farm the solo was it was

incredible wasn't it did it freak Dylan

out yeah I think it freak well I think I

think Dylan kind of just knew to let

Bloomfield go but um you know the first

time I listened to those tracks in N War

I thought it was

Dylan doing the riffs and then it was

sort of uh humbling to know I mean the

the guitar

parts I hold that performance and

reverence but Dylan guitar parts are

quite simple on all those songs you know

he's just playing course but Bloomfield

is [ __ ] he's doing all sorts of crazy

[ __ ] soccer Timmy soccer Timmy you know

there's so many timmies in my building

that I was soccer Timmy growing up and

you were a coach of some soccer at age

13 in France in the neighboring town of

my dad's neighboring Town Sant and in

Stan you actually chased the team up a

hill to a hotel on your bike yeah that's

true the the um the hotel God damn Bell

yeah wow who what univers Aran that you

just said that though yeah the hotel b b

b what is it b b bell bell okay Bellow

yeah and uh and uh chase the team up

there bef Tim be on your bike so you got

the autograph and then you chase a team

for more um no I think I just chased

them uh Dimitri payad it was like that

generation of sanen players um big sanen

fan probably the team I support the most

in the world that or the New York Knicks

Mr lobenhoffer wow LaGuardia Drama

teacher very formative guy director of

the Rising Stars talent show at

LaGuardia blessed me letting me do my

rap acts and not giving me secondhand

embarrassment miss fison miss fison it

all begins with miss fison you know

she's the one that told me that uh I

should pursue a career in acting uh

beautiful generous Drama teacher love

Miss fasen shout out Miss fasen the

shamb sir Leo loo baby that's good

pronunciation I see you got some

Canadian in you got some French Quebec

in you and you went to swim at the beach

there I went to swim at the beach that's

really literally just grass and rocks

and frigid water cuz it's in the

mountains of France it's not much of a

beach but it's very famous though isn't

it it's F I don't know I mean it's

famous in the town it's definitely

famous in the town Le on valet yeah Le

is like the sort of Big Town in that

area Willie seol French defender came

from that town um there's cool like

chapels there yeah cool that the whole

area is old cool stuff you're not going

to find any sort of Apple Store you're

going to find [ __ ] that was around 600

years ago and I have a gift for you you

it's relating to the movie it is Arlo

Guthrie wow Arlo Guthrie Woody Guthrie's

son unbelievable an original promo

poster from 1969 what can you say about

Arlo Guthrie Arlo Guthrie first opened

the door when a vagabond Bob Dillan

knocked on the door Woody Guthrie and

was sort of stunned by this guy's

appearance uh Bob that is and Bob said

his Woody home and the I think the nanny

was like get get off the property you

know um but Arlo had a career in his own

right um and is a ma was a major artist

in his own right you know he had the

song Alice's Restaurant yeah Alice's

Restaurant was this huge it's like a

long song it's like a 12-minute song or

something I think maybe and it made me

think food bear Burger bear Burger wow

yeah I think bear Burger still exists

you know it's tough with opening

restaurants in New York is you know

what's what's what's popping in like

2012 or 2024 like 10 years later it's

hard to keep keep your I don't know bear

Burger was like I used to go there on

26th and whatever on Third and you sit

there you order you order a burger you'd

wait an hour and a half for it and then

when it came it was delicious big Nicks

big Nicks on the upper west side man

you'd get the garlic notot chili and

that closed they bullied that guy out of

there big Nick's the guy the owner would

hang out in the back the logo was his

face and it was a great place to go

after the theater and I remember I went

there when my play closed when I was 15

I overheard a girl saying to her mom I'm

happy I graduated from NYU but I just

wish I didn't have so much debt and it

was like a light went off of my head and

I was like I'm not going to let myself

have thatb BNB Bagels yeah big shout out

B&B Bagels um there's just too many good

bagel places Thompson Square Bagels

Square Bagels what's your order on a

bagel a bacon egg and cheese on a salt

Bagel if I'm feeling like getting a

little bloated I'll put it on an

everything bagel let my gut expand a

little bit well you are Timothy Shalom

and winding up here Timothy I want to

give you another gift right here a scrx

LP whoa Skrillex from 2023 and we turn

it over track number six SRX and kid Cy

summertime fantastic and young lean

shout out Aiden zamir over there uh

Aiden zamir is a beast music music video

director and director and somehow

there's a glitch in the system where

he's agreed to help me Chronicle some of

this this Bob Dylan press but it's way

beneath his pay grade usually he has a

ton of camera assistance and uh there's

a a horrible glitch in the system has

emerged and oh yeah and and he shot this

this um this t-shirt he shot the picture

on this t-shirt for the Rolling Stone

cover I did you know just bring in the

[ __ ] heat Nardo War so I'm giving you

the scrx record do you already have that

song Summertime like do you collect some

cuy stuff yeah I collect Cy stuff all

over the place your interview with kid

Cy is one of my favorites ever it was

unhinged I don't think he knew what he

was walking in on if anybody's curious

go watch the nard war kid cudy interview

it shows what a great journalist narar

is but ultimately it shows what a

[ __ ] badass kid cuy is all respect

nard war and uh Skrillex you know

Skrillex was a scary artist for me cuz

when I was in high school you know it

felt like

lyricism was a dying um thing you know

and I thought this is going to be music

forever and that's on lemonade vinyl as

well and you first saw Cy in Montreal

Canada Montreal Canada I missed him in

New York because I was in such a days my

first semester in college and uh I got

on a 10-hour train to Montreal cuz it

was the closest city he was performing

and that's a beautiful train right if

anybody ever wants to do it New York to

Montreal you're going through you know

just a majestic setting and I was in

touch with a producer Mary Mary Pat

bentel I want to say her name was who

produced Spinners and she had produced a

movie cudy was in she set me up with him

backstage and I kicked it with him and

do the genius and Dennis for like 3

hours it was it was strange how did you

get into him was it like the 65th Street

Tower it was suggested music it was

suggested Music on Apple day and night

was huge but day and night was on my way

in it was soundtrack to my life and man

how did you stumble upon it I don't know

you know feel like there was limited it

wasn't like now you know you didn't find

your Niche like I feel like a grandpa

but like you know you didn't find your

Niche artist on Al it was like on

Soundcloud or whatever you took what was

in front of you and cudy was this

offshoot of the of the good music world

you know and and he spoke to a lot of

people in my generation that just you

know

felt felt uh angsty you know and you

were kned by little be oh yeah baby

that's a another great nard War

interview nard war and L be the bass guy

backstage somewhere and some [ __ ]

weird setting Lil be the Bas God I was

saying this to Tyler the Creator on set

recently cuz Tyler had no idea that I

was kned by Lil be and then he said he

could sense my aura GI G gave you know

gave off someone who had been kned by

Lil B Lil B is like a hugely formative

artist in my life and career he dropped

an album called I'm gay and the roll out

was very ambiguous about his sexuality

or the meaning of the album and I was

just inspired from the sense that wow

this guy's just doing whatever the [ __ ]

he wants you know and it was just very

cool to me at the time in this genre of

hip-hop that he was just like all over

the place you know um Love Lil be Shout

Out Lil be and you met him at school I

met him at the at NYU I I had $50 from a

commercial I did I bribed a kid to give

me his ticket I was in there alone you

know front row to the right I raised my

hand I got called on by him I asked I

was told him I was going to ask out a

crush he invited me on stage and he kned

me and honestly he said that boy's hands

been blessed and from there my acting

career took off you know thank you Bas

guy thank you Bas guy I was struggling

before that basically just done Royal

Pains and then you know I was nominated

for an Oscar by the time I was 22 you

know Shout Out Lil B nothing possible

without Lil be pray to the base God and

some music quote these ladies calling me

Manning Eli shout out Manning Eli shout

out Nicki Minaj LaGuardia high school

Roman's Revenge original Barb day one

rapping on the two train rapping on the

two train absolutely could you please

explain that era rapping on the two

train Eli Manning Eli Manning no what

were you do I was just what am I quoting

I on the two train rapping on the two

train I don't know what that is but I

was just a crazy kid in high school now

you know that was music that was on the

plate man she came from the high school

I went to you know so uh big shout out

Andrew Manning and everyone who had the

patience for me at that time cuz I was a

[ __ ] Maniac Marlin craft Marlin craft

come on Marlin craft Marlin craft Mar

craft you know we grew up in the same

building he's a fantastic rapper um this

is just Marlin cra the Beast Man and I

love this record I love his grandma's uh

voicemails on this record now the

building you grew up in yeah Lea key

Samuel Jackson um Marlin Terrence Howard

Terren Howard Jerry Orbach from law

order why like how did it happen it's an

Arts Building to my understanding they

built it as like uh they built it as

regular apartments in the mid-70s but

the mafia was so infiltrated in Hell's

Kitchen they couldn't get anybody into

the apartment so they cut a deal with

the federal government to say hey we'll

provide low income Arts housing and they

got all these crazy Arts in there it's a

fabulous place to grow up in but it

definitely motivated me to you know I

realized I was like wait I'm 14 like

now's my chance and that's where you saw

Marlon and that's where I grew up with

Marlin that's why I was soccer Timmy

because there was multiple I don't know

why there's so many timmies in the

building but I was like the kid with the

soccer ball all the time so they call me

soccer Timmy and uh Marlon's a beast man

just saw Marlin at the Yankees game met

his girlfriend he's a beast I know the

movie is kind of 61 to 65 isn't it

absolutely that's the era but I thought

still winding up here I would give you a

gift the Bob Dylan Greatest Hits but if

we turn it over a mint poster a mint

poster you don't often see the poster

mint check it out you don't see the mint

posters and this is the believe it or

not this is the greatest selling Bob

record ever but it's from' 67 67 by the

way this compilation stuff no one was

really doing compilation Greatest Hits

albums yet and his label kind of put it

out as an experiment it became a huge

hit and then I think Bruce Springsteen

and a bunch of other people started to

do it but he was sort of the first let's

check out this Mt poster yeah I was

curious what can you say about 67 versus

61 to 65 the movie ends the movie ends

in' 65 you know Bob's life be part two

maybe part two you could do part three

part four depending on how people react

but um uh you could you know the the

period after 65 is very mysterious in

Bob Dylan land you know he had a

motorcycle accident it seems like he

really did but people can't he really

needed a break is what it seems like and

it was cool he made really you know just

strange You Know M like it was just a

different vibe Nashville Skyline new

morning those are just different amazing

mint poster though this is unbelievable

untouched untouched now I got a fun fact

for you Milton Glazer I think is the

artist here I think he went to my high

school I could be wrong about this but I

think he went to performing arts and I

think he did the iHeart New York logo

believe it or not and I'm pretty sure he

did this but thank you for this mint

poster I'm going to frame this yeah no

problem I guess a lot of people have

that poster but it's like on the wall

it's totally ratted this is like mint

it's rare isn't by way I have a ratted

one you do yeah I'm sure it's not

original so where' you get I got it I

don't know where I got it can tell you I

didn't steal it baboom youor Timothy

shalom.com and Timothy are you looking

for anything this winding up here we're

at record Surplus maybe like this if we

could like go around here the movie

section oh what do we have right here

wow we have the Dune the original the

Dune soundtrack this looks like the

original Dune part one shout out Han

Zimmer the greatest of all time the

greatest of all time period Big Bob

Dylan fan too by the way uh though you

don't hear a lot of Bob Dylan and Han

Zimmer's um scores hope that doesn't

offend anyone directed The orig that

Dune you in directed by Canadian

directed by French directed by French

Canadian Legend Deni VNV who is one of

if not the greatest working director

right now just goes without saying Deni

big reason why I'm even getting the

chance to talk to you fantastic director

even better human love that man thank

you Den for everything and I hope you're

watching this because I'm with nard wart

nard wart just quickly is there anything

here to catches your eye as we go along

as we you know go along here through all

Barbie big shout out gry Gerwig Billy

Alish love Barbie Steve McQueen bullet

awesome Steve McQueen and let's go

around here if we check around here now

we're in rap and hip hop now we're de

Soul Eminem let's see what kind of

Eminem they have just say Gangstar um

sold out sold out he's doing well um

let's see let's see if there's any kit

Cy why not right m Miller K Cy let's go

okay men of the Moon 2 insano

indicud and this must be what is this I

even seen this oh this what is this oh

this is another this is another insano I

actually have all these already um and

then catching your eye we're speaking

here to Timothy shalam no you you oh you

know what I'll go for a little luren

Hill uh Miss education Lauren Hill

listen I'm going to be honest to you

know my lack of music education this is

an album I got into the last year which

I know makes me about 20 30 years late

to the miseducation of Lauren Hill but I

was absolutely floored by how incredible

this album is there's a live performance

there's a live performance of Lauren

Hill doing xfactor from 2023 I want to

say that's really one of the most

beautiful things I've ever seen she's

wearing this crazy hat and you know a

lot of musicians like respect you know a

lot of artists hard not to lose it she

didn't lose it my God amazing and

nothing else you know um um let's see

here you know s

Day

Supremes

um man oh man May one half what's on

this side let's see rock rock love ly

King Crimson Moody Blues we have some

folk over here folk let's go let's go in

the folk section Jo bayz okay this will

be fun let's let's let's rip this

section real quick Hank Williams okay

major I haven't given Hank Williams

enough love one of the most if not the

most formative artists and Bob millan's

career the Golden Dream of Hank Williams

a real legend sort of the first rock and

roll victim ever died way too soon it

was sort of like one of the biggest

artists in American history um uh what

tracks on here doesn't really say but I

will grab this because Hank Williams is

incredible uh Chris let see see boom

boom boom I'm gonna go quickly uh you

know Brothers Brothers four incredible

sort of like they came from a fraternity

at Northwestern and like very you know

sweet you know very sweet beautiful

harmonies I'm going to grab a little

brothers four let's see what Joan bz is

cooking up here um big section A lot of

Joan come on Joan come on Joan people

people need to buy she deserves a big

section okay this is like the classic

Joan baz right here the first 10 years

Hard Rain's going to fall written by Bob

Dylan uh you know just silver dagger

unbelievable I'm going to grab that uh

don't know what our budget is here

Richie Havens Richie Havens with one of

the coolest performances at Woodstock

ever ever the Richie Havens at Woodstock

is just just incredible I mean like

Freedom just unbelievable Kingston Trio

another great

folk great great folk uh from the from

the time of Bob Dylan Arlo what he go

through same section uh feels like they

should probably split that up Peter Paul

and Mary Peter Paul and Mary made Bob

songs famous before you know his songs

were famous you know they were part of

uh you know Peter PA Mary the birds can

we find the birds cuz they put Bob songs

on Pete Seager got to grab some Pete

Seager here we go um you know Pete

Seager

unbelievable Chris what about some birds

there's Chris from record Surplus hey

Chris are there is there any stuff from

the birds

here I'm going to grab this wow okay

let's go over there okay Chris from

record Surplus helping us out Surplus

helping us out um we got to grab a

little Frank Ocean while we're here too

if oh oh hello okay I don't want to I

don't want to ape your whole Bob section

but by the way coolest line notes

whatever they're called This Record I

mean this is insane you want to show

that up to the camera this is another

side of Bob Dyan this is the one record

from that period of 61 to 65 that didn't

really get a lot of love when it came

out people tried to kind of [ __ ] on it

here I'll just read this is like instant

just like all just like Maniac writing

he did I'll read a random paragraph he

goes I reply pointing to my chin and she

believes me needs no other answer I

strum the guitar she dances laughs her

bandana flies I too realize that she

will die here on the side of the sea her

Death is certain here my death is unnown

and I come to think that I love her

crazy uh okay Nar I swear I'm going

quick um no that's fine take your time

you know what I'm going to go with

knocked out loaded this is not explain

that I mean this is just not one of um

respectfully I don't think this is one

of his Classics these are all classics

blondon blonde Pat Garrett you know huh

this looks like a boleg or something I

don't know what this is um cool stuff

yeah I'm going to go look look at this

cover I don't really know knocked out

loaded you learn something new every day

amazing Discovery is a record Surplus

and as we go along here I think we can

find Birds we can find the birds I'm

going to take a little brat you know

shout out

Aiden you know beautiful lime green or

not lime green I think there's there's a

word for it don't kill me online okay

the birds yeah here we go Mr Tambourine

Man there's the cover so this this made

this made Mr Tambourine Man famous

before Bob ever made it famous um the

birds cool stuff and they did all I

really want to do which is a really cool

Bob song I'm I'm going to get into my

Phoebe Bridges bag over here love a

little Phoebe before I ever knew boy

Genius or Phoebe Bridges honestly kid Cy

put me on to and thank you victrola

right thank you victrola this is goingon

to play in my house tonight after party

um Blink 182 Blondie why don't we finish

up with Frank Ocean oh Brian Wilson wait

wait we got to get a little Brian Wilson

going Pet Sounds this is one of the

greatest albums of all time another one

that didn't really get a lot of love

when it came out okay and I'm also going

to get into my beasty boy you know

Beasty Boys I didn't have an appreciate

I still don't really have an

appreciation for the Beasty Boys but now

I'm understanding how iconic they were

um and that the Eminem kamakazi album

kind of rips his cover right I mean pays

homage um

interesting yeah gota get did you do a

lot of research for Bob Dylan like

buying a lot of his records I can't I'll

be honest not vinyls not I have a lot of

vinyls but uh um no I'll be honest is

there anything else you're looking for

like thises long here yeah um Chris is

there any Frank oan

probably somewhere right got to be some

Frank Ocean the modern goat we'll follow

Chris as he leads us through the rack

Springsteen Santana unbelievable Iggy

Pop very cool stuff right

here where does it say Frank Ocean there

we go blonde whoa cool is it the one

Frank Ocean one of one one this I will

grab man this on vinyl on vinyl this is

the most expensive thing this is $50 why

is that I mean unbelievable that's some

cool

[ __ ] very cool man

yep modern goat modern Bob this is the

modern Bob right here any oldies you're

looking for any oldies more oldies yeah

why don't we get some nice stuff you put

on in the morning make you feel

sophisticated I'm not forcing you to

pick up music am i this is stuff you

really want right am I paying for this

probably I hope so yeah yeah yeah yeah

yeah okay all right that's that's fair

Buddy Holly I'm Gra chip in no it's okay

it's okay it's okay Dune did well um so

um this is the original Buddy Holly this

is like the original rock star like

maybe you can't tell from this picture

but this is one of the coolest people of

all time buddy would you agree with that

definitely Buddy Holly one of the

coolest people of all time um don't know

how record Surplus landed at

and Little Richard let's get a little

Little Richard see this is why I can't

you know go on eBay or uh

um shout out rag tag online on eBay my

order didn't get delivered and I got to

redo the DHL shipping label or they're

you know they're not going to refund me

um for the movie in the record store

like music in were there vintage records

actually in the record store in fact

there was the Harry bellonte record I

was just telling you about that have Bob

Dylan on the back and and the movie you

know wouldn't have been clear if Bob

Dylan in the version of that movie would

have worked with Harry bellonte yet so I

pointed it out to Jim and Jim um uh Jim

did this thing where he throws powder on

the ground and it explodes and he

disappeared the direct continuity you

helped with that I helped with the

continuity if anybody noticed that and

they're paying attention to that the

movie is probably already doomed and

they said also for takes like you see a

take and want redo the take just because

of the music performance right man we

did like 11 12 takes sometimes of the

music stuff this was the most fun I've

ever had on a movie narir and it was you

know it was gratifying it felt dignified

to bring life to Bob Dylan one of the

great artists uh of our of our times and

I get to be his voice and you know in a

world where they're making a movie about

The Beatles or they've made a movie

about Johnny Cash or Elvis other

fantastic figures I get to be the voice

of Bob Dylan that's like the greatest

honor of my life

truly thanks again for coming to record

serus anything else lastly you're

looking for here actually is there going

to be a soundtrack for your movie

there's a vinyl coming there's a lot of

debate over what the vinyl cover would

be and I threw my hands up and just

whatever they wanted to use you know cuz

I wanted to do some of little Arts here

but uh you know they got an image of me

up there which which is all good so

we'll just go right back here to where

we began for nard human suret versus

Timothy sham

nard you can actually put that down but

don't put it on the mint poster I won't

put it on the mint poster I'm going to

put this aside and you know cuz I'm a

big fan of your work I feel like your

your crew here is going to do inserts

that covers before I go or not thank you

for remembering that I really appreciate

that a big nard War fan I grew up on it

you know I grew up on you know yep I was

curious like you've done all this Dylan

stuff and lastly I want to give you

another gift Bob Dylan song book played

by the Golden Gate

strings the Golden Gate strings so some

relaxing Bob Dylan for you amazing

amazing you follow serious Bob Dylan but

now some

relaxing I didn't know anything about

the Golden Gate strings cool what do you

think about the selection of songs the

selection is well I could see some of

these being kind of relaxing I don't see

Subterranean Homesick Blues being

relaxing why don't we get a little radio

head before I go too because I've been

get you know sub a homesick alien i'

been I've been in a big radio head phase

let's just find it real quick uh radio

head I don't know if I'm oh right behind

it duh okay got to get a little Okay

computer going woo this is a great great

record I mean sub terranean homesick

alien and over here

Subterranean Homesick Blues amazing

that's some cool [ __ ] I love it's cool

you can compare them compare them and

then we can actually put both of them

next to the face of the wickedly

talented Troy Savon with Timothy sham at

record Surplus and human Sur yet thank

you again for the time I really

appreciate you coming out today I guess

you have a busy day promoting movie busy

day promoting the movie and going on NPR

now so I'm going to have to get out of

this head space and put on my you know

my um actually same you know whatever

and um and I got a Premiere tonight

thank you also Timothy for the shout out

on popcorn with Peter Travers from

2017 yeah you can tell I've been a fan

for a long time like from 2017 what

happened that like how did you discover

me oh way before that wait what was my

first nard War interview um it might

have been Tyler the crater might have

been L be might have been kid Cy

what was I don't know what my first nard

warar interview was but I was so blown

away to hear you mention me to Peter

Travers like out of the blue also shout

out Peter Travers big Legend uh two

thumbs up pop four popcorns um you know

no I love I love I love Nardo and I just

hope I see you shooting on this iPhone I

hope you crunch it and make it look how

you used to look exactly you not you the

video no b boom b boom no it's exactly

the same it's exactly the same and

actually a little behind the for you the

little be interview was actually shot in

the dark that's the reason it looked

that way yeah it looks wild CU it was at

night and he's got the coolest teeth of

all time and there were no lights there

were no lights and his teeth are like

shining so everything is identical the

same intro the same exto the same

cutaways it looks exactly the same

except we haven't done this at night you

haven't done it at night and we're we

we're all slightly aged and crazier

emerging post pandemic but I heard you

had a great pandemic well it's amazing

that I discovered that you shouted me

out thank you I had time to discover

that you shouted me out fantastic

fantastic I really appreciate that

though thanks for coming out again to

record Surplus and doing an interview

with me Timothy I really appreciate it

nard this is a a music film in a lot of

ways and this is the movie you know this

is one of the movies I'm the most proud

of in my career so I want to you know I

want to hit every verse including an art

the nard War verse in the uh in the

effort to get this movie out cuz we

worked our tail off on it and Bob Dylan

is a figure that deserves this attention

why should people care about Timothy

shalam why should people care about Bob

Dylan

uh they

don't well thanks so much Timothy Keep

On Rocking In The Free World and

do yeah

we we we