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n who are you I'm Chapel ran Chapel

welcome to sonita Del the Record Shop

the record store hell yeah and right

after that I have a gift for you a

Divine 12 in wa I didn't know she had

this you think you are a man exactly

what can you say about Divine I mean

she's like the queen of Queens I mean

she was John wat's Muse and is the most

disgusting queen of all time and she

would be honored to be called that I

believe and that's from

1984 this is amazing how is your Divine

collection what do you have um I only

have a few things I don't have a record

for sure but this is cool I mean I've

been her before I like dressed up and

drag as her at a show when was that that

was at um kentuckyana Pride it was like

one of my favorite outfits I've worn did

many people notice yes yes it was

ridiculous yeah what was the feedback I

feel like I get mixed um reviews from on

my outfits which is like awesome but

that one got a lot of

positivity so there you go some Divine

for

Chapel Divine Divine for you me yeah

your early life cross country oh yeah

Chloe Andrews in sixth Kaylee in did I

get 19 19th in

2203 oh that was the the number that was

how fast it took me to do three miles

yeah what was that like what are you

thinking about cross country how did you

get into cross country well I pissed my

pants at the end of that race I like

peed myself is that usual if your body

is like if you are giving if it's giving

out yeah you pee yourself or throw up on

yourself I think I did both so that's

pretty you were trying really hard then

really hard that was the fastest I ever

did which is like it's fast but like I

didn't it wasn't like crazy

fast um did you practice much for that

like were you on a team I was on Willer

cross country team I was like running

was what I was going to go to college

for I think think like that's what I

would have gotten and was it cross

country then yeah it was cross country I

like love running but not anymore your

dad was also into the Fresh

Prince oh yeah Will Smith yeah and Tracy

Chapman and Tracy Chapman my dad really

loves Tracy Chapman Fast Car and you

heard that a lot around the house yeah I

yes my dad played fast car all the

time the middle school that you played

at the school assembly I played Middle

School talent show yeah what was what

was it like playing that talent show the

talent show um the talent show was uh

scary it's on YouTube my eighth grade

there was the first time that I sang in

front of people um and it was awesome I

played the Christmas song and I won the

talent show was the first thing I ever

won that was sick how hard is it to sing

and play at the same time cuz a lot of

people can't do that I can't do it but

you do do it I do it like occasionally

but like I can't do it do it like it's

really hard it playing an instrument is

so hard and yeah I can't I can do it

like 10% of 100% but I mean that's a

secret I mean you should never tell

anybody you can't do it I mean you do it

it looks like you do it like in a video

it looks like you're doing it you're

putting out I did try really hard that's

probably honestly I was the best at

piano in that time of my life when I was

13 14 cuz I was like practicing for real

two 15 p.m. on the University Plaza

stage the artfest on Walnut Street yes

what do you remember about that gig

cider days cider days well it's um it is

the hometown Art Festival like fall

festival and I played on stage they have

a a bunch of different local acts but I

played like covers on stage there

sometimes my original songs but that's

like really where that was like my big

gig of the year was

artfest yeah what was the reception

what' you feel like afterwards the news

loved it the news loved to like film me

and be like look at this girl like

that's like honestly how like I got a

lot of traction was the news the D Young

video from 2014 I love the video there's

tons of records behind you there is did

not listen to one I did not have a

record player at the time that's very

honest it is where was that

um that was in my garage like my

upstairs of my garage oh that's

incredible yeah that was a crazy that

was a long time ago who decorated that

my mom my mom are the records still

there no we moved did you take down the

records what happened to the

records I don't know I have no idea

Goodwill

probably

$1,012 that's how much I won at Feld

gotot talent and you made a little

prediction there I made a prediction

well they asked me like Kaye Rose like

what do you want to what is your what is

a goal in your life and I was like I

remember I could not breathe as as I was

saying it so I like could only get one

word out at a time but I was like I want

to win a

Grammy that's what I said and

congratulations now you're up for some

Grammys yes I'm

nominated what was that like it was cool

like yeah what did did you do with the

112 um I put it towards buying a car by

my first car car so I bought a car or

paying your piano teacher or paying my

piano teacher exactly paying him his fee

was $15 a session so but he taught you

but he also came along to your gig

sometimes yes my piano teacher would

play backup for me because as I stated

before I could not play and sing super

well so I'd be like can you play behind

me while I sing and was awesome that's

how I like did a lot of them but that's

great that how did you recruit your

piano teacher to join you on a gig I was

like well he was in college and I was

like 14 15 and I was like I'll pay you

50 bucks to come play two hours of music

with me and he said yes so I think

like the he was getting paid you know

what I mean yeah yeah it's like I'll pay

you yeah but I think that's great that

you were able to like take that $1,122

and turn it into something into

something we and speaking of Grammys

what exactly is going on here where it

says Grammy Camp yes this is when I went

to Grammy camp and I was 16 15 um I this

is me singing the the camp song we wrote

together this is a crazy moment who's in

the band and what is Grammy Camp I wish

I could say I know this is Casey I'm

cannot remember these two people's names

um Grammy Camp is just like a summer

camp put on by the Grammys Foundation

but it's like it's like 30 kids out of

the US you have to like audition and

it's like something that I it was cool

it was in New York it was the first time

I got to go to New York like that was

awesome that's when I fell in love with

New York was at this Camp you said it

was a special event it was kind of a

crazy time oh yeah this was like the the

what's it called when there's like a

recital this is the recital this is the

last thing of the camp where all the

parents come in and like there's like

some agents that come in it's like a

scout thing but yeah it went hard and

right now we're speaking to Kaye from

Missouri from Springfield Missouri from

Springfield Missouri and chap chap L

chapelon

chapone who got you into Daniel

Johnston a YouTube video Outsider music

I like during the pandemic I was like

trying to

I was like I need to know all like the

weird [ __ ] going on and Daniel Johnson

isn't that weird like he's like the king

of the weird I feel like but there's

like deeper deeper deeper layers and

same with the shags shags um Tiny Tim

like that I like went

through like a period of time where I

was like I'm going to dig and find some

crazy [ __ ] and you're also into dark

Bluegrass yeah what are some dark

Bluegrass people that you know about do

you know when I think of Bluegrass I

kind of think of country and when I

think of country I think of tumbling

tumble weeds and I have a gift for you a

box set tumbling tumble weeds oh my God

and if you open it up to record number

five yes a whole bunch of Records okay

number five and we look at track five on

record number five what do we

see oh the strawberry ran by wait the

sons of pioneers the sons of pioneers oh

I've not heard that that them sing it so

what can you say the connection is

between you and record five well the

strawberry ran is an old western song

about um a reddish pinkish colored horse

and ran is also Chapel rone my last name

because it was my grandfather's favorite

song the strawberry Rome so I thought

perhaps you'd like this box set like wow

it's a big box set but it has a whole

bunch of artists on there as well Jean

ayy Hank Snow Bob Willis a whole bunch

of stuff including your namesake as well

dang this is sick something to explore

with Chapel R scooters

coffee Angels what was it like there it

was where the drive-thru you know wore

the headset it was awesome I had a great

time it was during the pandemic I I I am

like look back at that time I'm like

that was [ __ ] hard that was hard

what's it like working the

drive-thru um it's fun if you're with

your friends it's really hard either way

but it's not fun if if you're not with

your friends if you're not with people

you like to work with but the hardest

thing is being on headset and having

someone at the window and you like

taking an order typing it in and giving

them the correct change at the same time

so you're talking to like two or three

different people at the same time and

you're making drinks interlocking oh

awesome Interlocken summer camp I went

to that was good that was great that's

why I wrote D young is what you were

talking about earlier which I think is

really incredible like You' been to all

these recitals you go to summer camps

it's a lot of work to be

chaperon it's a lot of work for my

nervous system I think that's what it

was at the beginning It's like got to

get those nerves out but nowadays it's

like fun right now yeah it was fun back

then no I have more fun now do Silver

Dollar City I love City have you ever

been there no never have I think it's

like the most one of like the Pinnacle

points of the Midwest and if you ever do

get to go to like Southern Missouri you

should go could you explain it to people

that haven't been there it is a theme

park in the middle of the woods and it

is like late 1800s themed everyone is in

attire and like there's blacksmiths and

wood Chopper people and like it's

awesome and it's the funnest and they

have

food no drinks no alcohol the Fantastic

Caverns ah yes there you go Fantastic

Caverns my biggest fear

caves and what do they like Fantastic

Caverns are underground like obviously

underground caves um that you can drive

through in Missouri in my hometown and

you can like get in a car and they just

take you through a little trolley

through the cave but my biggest fear is

to um

get caught in the cave and all the

lights go out and you're stuck there

forever have you come close ever to

that no but I will never come close to

that I W allow it what about Battlefield

Mall oh what do you want to know that's

where I spent all my time what shops

Sephora the food fair food fair yes

loved the food sorry Sephora Sephora

Sephora I spent a lot of time doing

makeup on um

still can't do my lipstick as you

pointed out before the interview came

out as before we started which I really

appreciated it I was trying to look out

for Chapel Ron at sonita Del V

records yeah so you're at the mall

anything else are you going to the music

store like what what's happening there

in the

mall um I was like really good I I was I

just I didn't steal anything I promise

like on God I did not steal anything um

I would literally just go around doing

my makeup um putting lipstick directly

on my lips not using the applicator like

you're supposed to so um I would go and

play hide-and-seek with friends hide-and

seek at them all yeah it was really fun

and that's like all there was to do

where you grew up was there a lot to do

like

or not on Sundays there was no Sunday

shopping where I grew up no no mall on

this nothing so you just like walked

around the neighborhood that was it

right or like a parking lot Vibe yeah

the Big Cedar

Lodge Top of the Rock yeah that's where

my family loves to go it's really nice

in the in in like Southern mouri it's

really beautiful they do gigs there

don't they wedding gigs okay

I mean you could rent it out for like a

concert

right yeah I haven't I haven't ever been

to that there though the Willard Aquatic

Center oh yeah I was in lifeguard there

for one day and then I

quit what caused you to quit my mom told

me to quit because um I didn't tell her

that my ex-boyfriend was also a

lifeguard there and she was like oh no

no no you're quitting so then I had to

quit but I could have been out there

saving lives yeah what did they teach

you um like that's a big responsibility

isn't it yeah I unfortunately didn't

teach me anything because I quit before

I

began were you sad to quit yeah cuz I

wanted to be by my

boyfriend so what did you do did you get

another job yeah I worked at my mom's

office obviously and what was so she had

to hire you then she hired me and then

she was stuck with me the rest of the

summer ramisha ramisha satar yeah my

best friend I wish she was here she was

really excited she like really lobbied

for she was like you have to do it you

have to do it oh thank you really wanted

me to talk where is she now she just

left La she's back home in Dallas but

yeah she's my best friend she like did

my whole project with me like all the

visuals incredible all the drawing all

the drawing all of the the in the

background at the festivals what you're

seeing on the screen screen she made she

helps me with the album cover like

cutouts and single cover this yeah all

of it thank you Risha thank you raisha

and I have a gift for you right here we

have a poster holy [ __ ] wao that's

sick it's an original

1982 as you can see by um uh the bug

marks wow Kate Bush Babushka poster

that's crazy like original 82 so that's

why it's kind of like yeah of course wow

this

feels very 1982 very real where was that

what the hell wow where was where do you

think do you think this was like a snipe

think it was on the wall and then it was

taken down and then Rob from Neptune

records he stored it away and I think

there might have been some silverfish

that got it that that's my worst

nightmare book did you know those look

like I have seen them yes [ __ ]

horrifying but there are none here there

are none here we're okay we're okay

imagine there's a prank and then all

came and we we shipped it down from

Canada also I mean 1982 believe you

1982 this had a long time for the silver

fish to die they're probably dead you've

had nightmares about silverfish I'm just

really scared of silverfish I really am

scared of them and I'm not really scared

of much I mentioned Saskatchewan and I

mentioned Canada

Saskatchewan that's kind of Illusion

isn't it yes that is I'm going to set

this down right here Saskatchewan I was

like uh it's in one of my new songs that

hasn't come out yet it's called the

subway I was looking up at venues there

to try to play a show there I owe it to

them I can't sing a song about saskatch

want and not go there and play a show

you first dyed your hair in Portland I

dyed my hair red in Portland and then my

life changed cuz I kind of think like

Vancouver Portland Northwest kind of the

same you know I the Pacific Northwest is

where my heart lives like I will move

there one day to settle down so what

made you dye your hair I just I was

always so precious about my hair and I

was like I can't possibly dye it that's

crazy and then one day I was like [ __ ]

it and when you're on tour you sing but

sometimes you lose your voice or you

once lost your voice and had to play

like a backing track a fake backing

track and you lip synced yeah lip sync

shows before because I got alcohol

poisoning and I um threw up so many

times that my throat got infected and

then I um yeah lost my voice and had to

play five shows without singing But the

I luckily I was opening for Fletcher I

wasn't like headlining Fletcher

Fletcher period Fletcher um and she I

was like look I'm going to go be my a

drag queen to my own music and pretend

to sing because I did not I'm not not

going on stage tonight so and people

liked it well I think it's cool that you

actually played your CD and did that

like nobody think about lip syncing like

that's amazing do it like The Show Must

Go On The Show Must Go On and I just

told everyone like hey guys I'm not

actually singing obviously my voice is

gone but let's

pretend so you mentioned Vancouver

another gift for you right here the

emergency room compilation from

Vancouver British Columbia Canada and if

you open it up to the inside you can see

like a little booklet in there and we

look at this photo and we have a person

here on drums that you know on guitar

Andrea on drums Daniel but it's not your

producer Daniel it is new Sensei was his

band Daniel was on drums and you know

him who is

that who is Daniel putot Arville peek oh

what wait shut

up what yes that's his earlier band new

Sensei amazing that's so sick I didn't

know he played drums that's so cool I

was just talking to him how did you hear

of a ropek well my friend I I first

heard of him cuz my friend said look at

this guy he's so hot and he had you know

his mask on and everything and I was

like God who is

and went to see him and his show changed

my whole life changed how I do shows so

cuz he performed at the Troubador and in

West Hollywood and he had local drag

queens open up for him meatball was one

of them and

I told myself from that show if I ever

perform my own headline shows I'm going

to have local drag queens opened up for

me too and and then I did so he changed

my life and now we're we're friends and

now he have a bit of his early career

new Sensei god I didn't even know this

existed that's so cool and that's a

special little gift for you thank you

Crayola in London the drag queen of

course of course Crayola told me that

though she was the first drag queen that

told me that I was a drag queen cuz I

didn't I didn't quite understand like

what I was um

or how did it like describe I was like

yes I like sing pop music but I feel

like it's something different but she

was like you are a drag queen and then I

was like it like made sense all of it I

was like yeah maybe I am a drag queen

maybe maybe this all is drag and then it

all made sense all started working out

for each show you have a lot of drag

queens open what is it like like I read

some like 156 people apply for like one

show like how do you decide who becomes

the ER well Kyle gold who's off camera

right now helps me

through all of yeah are we allowed to

show Kyle yeah Kyle Kyle yeah what can

you say about Kyle right there Kyle is

the queen of the drag queens um and

helps pick go through all of the

admissions how many admissions were

there this year we see like over like a

th000 to 2,000 submissions 1,000 to

2,000 submissions for every tour

so per gig that's a lot that's a lot

yeah but we do worldwide we like do yeah

we had Queens everywhere all du to oral

peek all due to Orville peek another gay

queen and also beside there we have

Nikita Nikita Canada you're obsessed

with Canada you're obsessed with Canada

I feel it I'm just so excited to BU

[Laughter]

Canada love Canada and I have another

gift for you right here a record and

this is gay Jazz gay Jazz

perfect and it's a history of gay Jazz

Believe It or Not between 1927 and

1936 and read some of the line notes

right there perhaps same day lesbian

singers will no longer have to sing

about the men they never desired and gay

male vocalists will be able to choose or

write material they truly can identify

with perhaps too Jazz writers will learn

that men and women they write about are

human beings and not just names on a

record

label so I thought that's quite

interesting like going way way back

between 1927 and

1936 like the history of gay

Jazz that's

crazy possible covers maybe for you to

do as well [ __ ] man blutes oh yes ain't

that a mess wow what do you know about

the history of like gay jazz or gay rock

and roll I don't know much um honestly I

don't know much all I know is that

like there is I really really got into

like rock this year with like girl rock

like Jan jet Vibes and like heart like

we were talking about and

um uh Alanis Moret [ __ ] so awesome

and I have actually another gift for you

right here in this tube do you give this

many gifts usually do you usually gift

this many gifts well you are chop chle

ran

ran ran we have to give gifts well I oh

you knew you knew an original

1996 poster of Atlantis playing in

Vancouver British Columbia Canada signed

by the artist Bob Massie oh my God wait

that's so sick wow from in Canada she's

from Toronto where is she from Vancouver

she's from bis yes

oh she's so cool have you ever talked to

her no I haven't but there's a quote I

love her her whole journey I'm signed up

for atanas talking about you me yeah oh

my God she's the coolest she knows about

you I've met her one time she knows

about you she knows about me is crazy I

she she is

like like probably my biggest like Idol

ly just cuz she's so like so oh there's

multiple in here yeah one for raisha one

for

raisha would she like that yeah yeah

thanks Cuz Risha vouched for me right

yes yes she did yes um yeah I met alonis

Moret and then Joan Jet wanted to meet

me afterwards and I I that is the most

um terrified I've been all year was

meeting Joan Jet have you met her I have

done an interview D is actually a Nar

versus Joan Jet when she was playing The

Warp Tour in

2006 I haven't seen that one it's pretty

amazing like it's pretty cool amazing

rocker she like does not give a [ __ ] and

I was saying it like for like gay Jazz

record you could use that for your next

Harvard lecture oh yes yeah I mean yeah

I need to learn a lot about that to do a

lecture on it but I do um I would love

to go back to Harvard I never really

talked about that fact that I went to

Harvard and did like

a little lecture

what was that like it was just like on

queer identity and

like it was like really cool cuz I did

not go to college I didn't do super

awesome in school so to be like to go do

your first

college speech at Harvard is crazy it

was cool it was for like the medical

Department

too the Harvard Medical School Harvard

Medical School are the ones who asked me

to come so that's was the email was from

them yes everyone was in lob coats they

were all like they were all like it was

really special it was awesome

because people didn't for the first time

didn't ask me to come just to sing they

like I didn't even sing or anything like

I just went to go to give a speech and

that made me feel really special cuz

like they wanted some they wanted to

know about my thoughts not just my songs

it made me feel good like I was thinking

about thrift shops in Springfield what's

like thrifting in Springfield yeah I

mean I have not gone thrifting in

Springfield in years everything I mean

like I need to like wear wig and stuff

so I haven't been in a long time where

do you get your stuff now like what what

are you wearing right now this out of

curiosity um this was a gift to me and

this was a gift by a friend and this was

a gift they're all gifted and what about

the Hat the hat I got I thrifted from

losis flea many years ago but yeah I I I

love like thrift shopping Kelsey money

from high school yes who the Riff the

ri okay yes yeah yeah yeah wait what do

you know about what do you know about

Kelsey Kelsey you just had that name

down well you are chap chapone we have

to know Kelsey Mooney she used I mean we

were that's who I wrote like my first

songs with Kelsey Jeff um went to middle

school together we were in Camp Rock the

Musical Camp Rock 2 the musical and we

wrote an original song for

the yeah we performed on stage in the

middle of musical did not go in at all

with the story but do you remember it

yeah I think it was called music is our

life what key was it in I don't even

know what key anything is it I'm not

That's how little I know about music

well you say that but it's amazing to

see you play from a young you don't

forget that stuff I never learned the

key part to be honest oh you know the

key

part you must know some key part like

the play the piano I know some cord I

Know chords I do know chords you have a

DJ account called Kesha Kesha that is we

and Misha Kay and Misha Kesha Kisha

Kesha that is our DJ account but we

haven't we don't know how to DJ yet but

we have like a good following it's kind

of sick where can people find it

love Kisha Kesha at um on on

Instagram and I have another gift for

you speaking of Canada some Grimes oh my

God yeah I [ __ ] with Grimes the first

Grimes LP that's sick from

2010 oh my God she is the coolest yeah

what can you tell to people about Grimes

she's like the ultimate like like she

does it all herself and like is so

unafraid to be a freak and like

like she's just like so inspiring

because she just is such a freak and

like rebels in that and I saw her at

Coachella this year um and I was on

shrooms and it was the best

set period it was the best set was

Grimes I had an amazing time I love

Grimes what was your set like that was

my first Festival ever which is crazy

that I was cotella

um but it was amazing I think it like

that was I think there was like a bunch

of like gasoline and pine needles in a

pile that like was me and there just

really needed to be match struck and

like there was just piling and piling

and piling of like burn like stuff to

burn and like I think Coachella was like

the final like like the match and then

cuz that was

in late April and now we're in

November and my life is completely

different because of coala

could you feel that

moment yeah I felt it at govball um like

whenever I dressed up I came out at

Governor's Ball and like an apple then I

was like smoking a joint that was like a

foot long or whatever and I was the

Statue of Liberty and like it kind of

just changed it honestly changed my

whole career and to to now it's like

everything is

different what I find really interesting

is Lucy your drummer yes Lucy she did

some drumming for Alanis Mor set's tour

right yes she did she did the connection

she did the the Alanis um on Broadway

Jagged Little Pill she was the drummer

for that which is so crazy and Andrea is

in your band too right Andrea yes mhm

yeah and she's in Venezuela she's from

Venezuela Carol G Carol G yes and Benny

yeah yeah she's sick she's really

[ __ ] good who else is in the band

these days Ali

fer she used to do like Punk she like

came from like the punk world and it's

so sick um and she used to

do wise blood yes she used to do wise

blood too who we're friends now too I

love Natalie have you talked to her Yes

actually there is a nard versus wise

blood on YouTube you can check out check

it out I will on Saturday Night Live

you're an amazing

outfit which one thank you well I was

curious could you describe the outfits

and do you reuse them like could you

give it to me I would love to get

whatever you want you can have um it's

all done it's not very far away from

here my closet um I would love to reuse

a lot of my outfits but my stylist it's

just like we got to keep it moving we

got to keep it moving but I one day I

will do I will rewar but but I

had um a leather two piece set for The

Giver which is the new song and it's

like a little country song and then I

had like a very sparkly white long dress

with some big hips and but because I was

a drag queen I had pads in who made it

and how long did it take to get made um

well Zanna made

the the leather outfit and I mean she's

so fast took her like a few days and

then for the other it was weer Hof right

I'm not sure how long that dress took it

probably took weeks and weeks and weeks

but it worked and it ripped right before

it ripped all the way down the back

right before I walked on stage so I was

so I had to have Saturday night lives

like their in-house du

seamstress I it could have if we really

needed to we would have but I was sewn

into the dress because it ripped all the

way down from like here to here that's

kind of old school isn't it get sewn

into a dress into the dress yeah and so

after you use the dress is there a bit

of sweat sometimes that you know do you

have to clean it or how does that work

they smell crazy yeah I don't know if I

clean it though I think I just put it in

the bag and put it on the rack so you

might use it again down the road you

might use it yeah and then it'll clean

it if it smells bad cuz Hannah Montana

had a big closet she had a huge closet

but not as big as your closet honestly

hers is probably bigger some people

though on the day of the gig won't do

interviews or won't talk cuz they're

afraid of losing their voice have you

felt at ever like you don't want to talk

um yes of course You've Lost Your Voice

I've lost my voice several times but my

voice is quite fragile cuz it's not very

loud um even though it sounds loud in

the microphone but um yeah I don't do a

lot of talk I don't do a lot of

interviews this is like like I think my

last one for the year thank you I didn't

I don't do a lot I like the way you said

my last one you said this is my last one

last one this is my last one

ever well hopefully not ever no no no

and winding up here Chapel we have

actually another gift for you right here

a magnetic fields LP whoa and if you

open it up check out it's an edged green

vinyl perfect wow oh my God what the

whoa living room bedroom desk curtain

that's cool yeah what can you say about

the magnetic fields I mean they're one

of my favorite bands like uh The Book of

Love is my favorite song just cuz it's

so I just love how kind of ironic it is

that whole like love songs what is it 69

love songs or something like that um

it's they're just like a [ __ ] really

cool band and I just like that the

guitar is completely out of tune in that

song and I like how imperfect it is do

you find that whenever you you interview

artists they what they listen to is very

different from what they make or do you

feel like it aligns like do you feel

like you there's a pattern or anything

there well I love the idea that you

listen to magnetic fields and it makes

me get back into the magnetic fields

like oh yeah yeah oh so I love when

people I interview mention bands I'm

like oh oh I forgot about them or this

is a new band so I think that's really

cool when you do that when you do covers

like even you covering Jun jet I think

that's cool to get people into Jun jet

yeah do you think about that about like

getting people into stuff like that

might turn somebody on to it um I think

that when ever I covered Barracuda a lot

of people thought it was my song and I

was like now let me educate you like on

this amazing band heart you know I so

that that is cool and it's also I

covered um Bad Romance by Gaga Lady Gaga

and everyone in the room knew that song

but it's like using a cover to like pay

homage or like be like

hey I

came into this world because of Ganga

because of Bad Romance it's like a cover

says a lot about the artist and the

environment I think around the artist

winding up here do you remember this gig

right here school

night abso facto this is crazy yeah I

did this um you did the poster I know I

performed on at school night is this all

going on have you ever been here no no

it's in La it's they have it at Baux in

Hollywood but it's like every Monday

night well they may have it tonight wait

November 13th that was like last week

well they might have it tonight where

like baby baby artists go and perform

and like it's a very industry event it's

not very like um I it was it's scary is

what I'm trying to say it's scary this

scared me so bad and actually this night

was the night that I got hit in the face

with guitar the stage is very small but

I was like singing and like turned and

he turned at the same time it was like

this and like I like

knocked was there blood no but that

would have been sick I wish was there

concussion or what happened no it was

like nothing I actually just got really

embarrassed and nobody knew what

happened but that is that would be cool

to have like a bloody nose on stage and

this was your debut in La I

guess I guess so yeah it was right after

the Vance

tour I went on I was one of three

opening for Vance

Joy but you again have had so much

experience like playing

recitals how come you you weren't

nervous for this were

you yeah I was I would be nervous today

I this is like this [ __ ] is crazy like

small like 40 50 people that's scary

especially in like an

industry event oh my God no I'd rather

do anything else

peace and love to school night though

the Bigfoot Lodge my favorite bar in LA

Bigfoot Lodge it looks like Bass Pro

Shops inside have you ever been to Bass

Pro no I haven't I guess it's not in

Canada maybe why is it your favorite bar

um it it feels like a log cabin and I

grew up in a log cabin and they've got

like animatronic like Little Beaver pops

out of a little

log it's my favorite and they've got

this one drink that's the toasted

marshmallow and I love

marshmallow what else do you

like um like

foodwise I love yogurt I have yogurt

every day and I love bread and right now

I'm eating a lot of soup I love soup and

Indian food have you seen any rappers

around La I've not around La I met Tyler

the Creator a few weeks ago um where oh

oh at the ACL at ACL yeah and he's

awesome he like how do he how did he

introduce

himself um he was hiding in the shadows

as I got off stage and it was like what

does that mean like he was he was just

like kind of lurking over in the corner

and like my tour manager was like hey

Tyler wants to meet you and so I went

over and he gave me a lot of good advice

about paparazzi

even though I don't I don't I don't have

Paparazzi um but when I do I took notes

and he like thanked me for speaking up

about some stuff that I spoke up on and

also lastly here Chapel I have a gift

for you a zombies of the Season 45 this

is an incredible song yeah what can you

say about the zombies um I don't know

many songs by the zombies but this is my

favorite one and I think it is the

hottest song while time like hands down

but I think the' 60s were a lot 60s and

7s were like

really okay with like hot songs what

makes a good song a good song I think is

just I think for me a good song is just

like I think you just know in your gut I

don't know what it does I know that like

when I write a song and I think it's

good then I'm like

the only way I know it's good is if like

my gut says it's good but don't you

agree like what makes a good song is

just how it feels or what do you think

well sometimes when you write a song do

you feel like it's been written before

and you start singing the lyrics for

another song and then it's like okay we

have to trash this song because it

resembles this song too much I think

that starting I think that that can be

helpful though like if it resembles a

song then it's like maybe you're on the

right path but it's not this exact path

like maybe ve off something like this

but not exactly cuz you don't want to

copy but um I think that I think that

good songs don't even necessarily need

good lyrics I don't even know if good

good lyrics mean a good

song but that's very controversial I

think my friend Chris from a rock and

roll band from Toronto slan and Halifax

via

Halifax I think he said to me once like

a a lot of hit songs are in the minor

key the minor key what do you think

about the minor key versus the major key

I love doing both in a song I think

that's really cool I think good luck

babe does but I love the minor key it's

easier for me to write a song in the

minor key I think most people would

agree it's easier to write a sad song

yeah or a slow ballad those are usually

in in minor how did you discover me it

was Risha um no well I know about you

from of course the I think it's Travis

Scott the how do you keep your pants up

how do you belt belt how do you keep

your pants up when you're performing

it's

incredible belt that is how I was like

who the [ __ ] is that guy and that's how

I I think that's how we all most of us

know about you is from that interview

anything else you like to add to the PE

there at all um thanks for having me

well thanks so much chel keep on rocking

in a free world and

do thank you guys do I do that too to

do yeah

thank

you thank you

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